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01 September 2016 @ 08:44 pm
Surprise!!!!! not really.  
Sleepy-bulldog-falls-asleep

Maybe we should start worrying when nothing in fandom surprises us anymore.

This is not a rant~ more like closure~ let's take it from the top.

I joined KT after Jin left so I only knew him from watching old vids - and I didn't find anything special about him and liked him the least so whatever, 'thanks for leaving' was my thought. Now, I don't mind Jin. I don't care for his music or knowing anything about him but, I don't mind hearing my friends fangirl about him.

Then when Koki got fired I cried and internally screamed, 'you frigging idiot. You fool. You're a friggin liar who didn't take us seriously'. But time passed and I'm long over it. I even enjoy looking at his whacky twitter pics~ as a matter of fact just a few days ago, I was checking out his songs on Youtube~ not my cup of tea. I love rock but I like rock with style, with character, with uniqueness. I just saw him and heard rock music. Nothing catchy, but he's still Koki.

Then when Junno left, I was, "oh shit man! I always thought you're that kind of village person~ not too fussy and greedy for the spotlight but how can you even think about giving up KAT-TUN?... I mean, it's KAT-TUN~ but then I guess you want a normal happy life away from people all up in your business".

But then, soon after, the pictures started to show up here and there and at first I was like, "hmmm okay, it's good to see that he's alright. But what happened to him staying out the spotlight?"~ because as we all know, he didn't really give a reason for leaving KT, I just speculated that he wanted to be out of the limelight. But then the pics started to get a bit annoying because really, "you left KT just to pose up in other people's pictures on instagram? Really, boy, what are you up to~ hurry and do something with your life".

So this brings me to today's discovery... announcement of Junno releasing a single and already set up a fan club...

I think if I want to be angry, then it's ok for me to be angry. If folks could be angry at Jin and I could be angry at Koki, then why not Junno? I mean, here I was thinking Mr. Junno-man wanted to stay out of the limelight and enjoy sunny days with his woman~ but instead, he's back in music business... and not only is he back, he's back during KAT-TUN's 'recharge'~ with not just a solo but a FANCLUB~ can I just laugh? How long has he really been planning this?

Yeah, I guess I can be angry BUT! but I'm not.

Why?

I'm glad he finally made a move because now we finally FINALLY know why he left KAT-TUN~ it seems like he just really wanted to go on his own. For whatever reason, KT just wasn't working for him and bluntly put, he wanted out to start on his own.

All the more reason to be angry, right?

WRONG!

Now that I have my reason (his reason) - off doing his thing, I can now completely let go of KAT-TUN's Junno. Maybe this is what I needed to see, him completely moving on - so I too can move on. I still follow Koki on twitter and chances are, I'll follow Junno too if he makes an account, but just like Koki (who keeps concerts 20mins from me and I never went), I'm absolutely confident I'll never become a fan of solo!Junno, the way I'm a fan of KAT-TUN!Junno~ even without malice, hate, anger, it just won't happen - because as I've said a million times before, I don't like Jpop, I don't like Johnnys - what I do like is KAT-TUN, KAT-TUN is my exception to every rule.

And it's funny how all week I've been listening to the first Best of KAT-TUN album, the No More Pain album and the Kusabi album~ they are my favourite so I never get tired of them~ but as I listened, I found myself thinking, "I wish 3nin KAT-TUN had left us an album - something like a teaser until they return".

And that thought struck me as a good sign~  as in, Instead of yearning 4nin KT, I was instead missing 3nin dearly~ so I'm really starting to think that this 'recharge' was a good move~ like 3nin wants to be seen as 3nin so they're giving us time to get used that idea and yearn them and only them.

So yeah, good luck to Junno. I really really really mean it.

#AU!JunDa
 
 
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pinkporcapinkporca on September 1st, 2016 12:03 pm (UTC)
I sort of agree with you..Good luck Junno. My only thoughts are how much of all this did the 3n know? How is the 3n taking this (if they did not know about his decision to go solo). Going out nicely from Johnnys (instead of being kicked out or having agruments)allowed Junno to go solo in less than a year and with non compete agreement...Just saying that Junno planned this well.
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 12:28 pm (UTC)
Oh I just texted a friend saying I hope Junno at least gave Maru, Uepi and Kame some heads up~ because the media will be coming.

He really planned it well.

No wonder he just appeared to be slacking off~ but he was really just resting and waiting.

*sigh*

Tomorrow's media scares me.
kurikuribebikurikuribebi on September 1st, 2016 12:10 pm (UTC)
I thought the speculation from the very beginning with Junno was because as long as he stayed with Kat-tun, he was under Johnnys and couldn't really advance as a performer or in his personal life because of all the rules.

It makes sense he would come back as a solo, because he can do as he pleases -- sing and still get married as he chooses.
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 12:31 pm (UTC)
Junno said nothing, so most people just speculated he wanted to settle down. I can't recall where, but I think he made mentioned of staying out of the limelight or so~ so while it's no surprise, it's really a hit. He planned it all very well~ it would've been better if he had just announced his true intentions from the start instead of dodging.
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Mystical_Powersmystical_powers on September 1st, 2016 12:11 pm (UTC)
I'm so angry at him because he made it seem like he was leaving cos he wanted to be normal and wanted to get married but then he goes and does this? Obviously I won't support him and just like you I am way too focused and excited to see KAT-TUN as a 3nin. I've rewatched 10ks twice this week and each time I'm like '3nin KT are perfect and I cannot wait for them to come back!'. I just hope journalists don't try and get on their case for a comment about today. It's best if they just don't comment, let the news pass and instead focus on Maru's birthday and also very soon: UePi's ^_^
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 12:33 pm (UTC)
Oooh I'm still to watch the concert ><" But while I listened to those albums I mentioned up top, I would remember 3nin singing them at 10ks and that must have been where the yearning for them came from.

The media scares me. I'm so tired of KT always being in the media for 'not so good' things.

I so wish they would focus more on 3nin solo activities~ but gossip always sells more ;_;
chiitakachie on September 1st, 2016 12:51 pm (UTC)
I hate junno for now... but I hope I can let it go one day *just like jin and koki*
and I also agree I won't like him as I like kat-tun's junno *this apply to jin and koki too*

I'm worried about kame though... I'm afraid the reporter will ask him in inappropriate time *just like jin marriage incident =_=*
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 03:31 pm (UTC)
Yeah I think it's okay to feel how you feel. Happy, sad or confused. I just wish everyone could be understanding and stop trashing talking fans who are hurt.

Luckily, I don't think Kame has anything going on now so maybe he'll be safe~ maybe on Sunday Maru will be asked to comment about it on Shuiichi *sighs*

Hang in there!
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pan-chanpandanyan on September 1st, 2016 01:04 pm (UTC)
OMG thanks! You just put everything in perspective for me x_x

When I heard the news I kind of didn't know how to feel about it? But yeah, I guess I still want to know how Junno's doing and all but he'll never be KAT-TUN's Junno again and it's a fact we all have to accept.

And this is the junda fangirl in me but somehow I hope he at least talked to uepi about this...I mean it's kind of weird that he suddenly stopped updating Tatsu gumi after a while right? But yeah #AU!JunDa from now on TwT
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 03:28 pm (UTC)
*hugs*

I think us JunDa girls are in limbo~ can't hate him, still love him but still vex with him ><" Why must we torture ourselves so?!

I too really hope he spoke to Ueda about this~ as a friend, as they seem to be, and as an ex-coworker. Ueda seemed really hurt when he kept the secret the first time. And now that you mentioned it, I really haven't seen Boss, all week ~ let's continue to blindly hope all is well with him

It's only been months but I really can't wait for the day when Junno being in KT becomes a distant good memory, just like Koki.

Hang in there, hun!
powwiepowwie on September 1st, 2016 01:13 pm (UTC)
"Now, I don't mind Jin. I don't care for his music or knowing anything about him but, I don't mind hearing my friends fangirl about him."

Guilty as charged! <3


I've been having a hard day... productivity really low and a rollercoaster of feelings none of which are positive towards him.
I can't say I hate him, I just feel disappointed and cheated *again* of my genuine feelings at the time.

Now, he never stated why he was leaving but it was in the official press release that he was leaving entertainment business.

Looking back at that now, it may be that, for obvious reasons, JE didn't want to kickstart his solo career by announcing it (as he was having a lot of TV time because of KT activities).
Incredibly, it makes business sense to do that. Even if they were parting on a neutral note.
If we want to read a bit of malice in the "leaving the entertainment business" remark, is in the form of: try win back your reputation towards the fans when you debut now... (and if the general mood today is an indication, like Koki, he will have a hard time promoting himself to kt's fans)

Jin's case in 2010 was different as he was still part of the agency. When he quit in 2014 it was hush hush.
And because of his forced hiatus after the marriage, because he was already composing his own music and producing his PVs and concerts, no one was surprised about his new business.
It was more like an "about time" feeling.

But I don't think Junno was treated THAT bad by the agency, so sorry if I don't feel like blaming JE this time. It's a crappy agency which made them who they are though, and I don't feel like saying that Kame, Ueda and Maru are idiots who want to be slaves to overlords.

I won't support Junno's activities, not while KAT-TUN's are on hiatus. I loved their 3nin concerts, they were, *are* great. I only felt the "someone's missing" feeling during Will be alright. But it's just the song.

It's a closure though, I agree with you.
I just hope, the 3 of them will say something if they can't announce new activities in the near future.
Because waiting for them is getting harder without any reassurance.
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 03:22 pm (UTC)
haha you and Cris are as guilty as charge lol it's actually fun listening to you two head over heels about him XD

*hugs you* when it rains, it pours. I hope tomorrow/today will be better~

You made a good point about keeping quiet while in JE. Though, it's still so wow. I could understand a single (maybe) but that fanclub was like WOWWOWOWOW!!!!! He really had things planned and ready and was just killing time taking pictures in gyms and sports events.

If anything makes me angry at this point, it's that I still like this dude as a person. And If I see him on TV, I'll still watch. And if he laughs, then I too will laugh.

But I wonder what music or what Junno wanted to do that he couldn't have done in JE? And music wise, I really want to know what or how it will be. If anyone went solo and did music, I always figured it to be Uepi~ haha really, the people we give so much of our heart to just keep breaking it and breaking it and breaking it.

Hang in there!
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chestnuttor7chestnuttor7 on September 1st, 2016 01:46 pm (UTC)
I was totally pissed when I heard the news. Seriously couldn't believe that he screwed his ex-bandmates over like this. Says a lot about smiley people being mostly two-faced.

Then I came here cause in a way I expected you to write something about it (sorry for the expectation :p) and immediately felt better after reading your thoughts. I totally agree with you that the focus is now on the other 3. I've had the 10Ks concert on playback over and over and overall it's the best one yet. It's just really in sync from beginning to end and they did a really good job harmonising with each other.

I'm also kind of glad that all 3 of them don't have high profile things going on right at this moment that they have to do promos for. I so do not want them to be bombarded by the media for their reactions to this news.
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 1st, 2016 03:14 pm (UTC)
haha can't help but laugh. But yeah, my mom always says, 'silent river runs deep'. You just never know.

Go ahead and vent on this post lol .
As soon as my friend told me what was happening, I was on my way home and my head was just exploding with thoughts that as soon as I got home and saw confirmation of things, I just had to pen it to keep away the stress.

You're right! I'm so glad everyone is low key now. Maybe only Maru on Shuiichi on Sunday. I'm really hoping Junno gave them a heads up before all this went public... as a friend and as an ex-bandmate.

Hang in there!
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izzy and sjofn osaizzyosa75 on September 1st, 2016 04:53 pm (UTC)
Unlike you, I felt genuinely pissed off with Junno when I read the single announcement this morning. My feeling is it's too soon! If 3nin KAT-TUN were back and active I would have been OK with this, but they are not and I miss them and I really don't want to see the person who put them in this situation happily releasing a single on his own. When I have KAT-TUN back I am sure I'll be able to support Junno and wish for his happiness but for now I really don't want to see him. I do however agree that I've totally got to a place with KAT-TUN where is just the three of them and I'm honestly happy with that. I just want them back!
izzy and sjofn osaizzyosa75 on September 1st, 2016 05:02 pm (UTC)
Just as an add, I actually think it's much better to think about it the way you have and I hopefully I'll be able think about it more positively soon.
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serial_translatserial_translat on September 1st, 2016 06:03 pm (UTC)
So, my opinion as a Junno's fanboy *since he's my Ichiban*.

I saw the news on Twitter this morning like... WHAT THE... seriously ? I mean... what the hell... so suddenly ? I saw the hate comments then and I didn't understand them at first... I had forgotten he had said he wanted to leave the spotlight... = liar. Currently, I don't hate or love Junno. I'm just quite disturbed by his behavior so I don't know what to think about him anymore.

And later I saw this... : "So fans have dug up that Junno's website was created May 2, 2016. Wow just wow Junno. That's literally a day after Tokyo Dome final"

It's fucking worse than what I thought... That way he can only look like a douchebag. Now I totally understand the haters comments and... what can I say ? Now I think they're right to blame him, and I won't blame them to say it as much as they want.

*current state* : I don't think my Dvds are as valuable as they were anymore. I don't have time to resell them because life got me busy and I think about it now... KAT-TUN has become such a mess and because of that, these Dvds look like garbages for now... it really sucks.

JUNNNNNNNNNNNNNO. *rant over* ^_^

Well, I'll still follow KAT-TUN no matter what happens but for the concerts now... we'll see how they manage. It depends on what they come up with at the end of their recharge.
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 2nd, 2016 10:27 am (UTC)
You must be the only sane Junno fan I've seen since yesterday~ and I wondered why it was so hard for other fans to pick sense and acknowledge where Junno went wrong... and even if not 'wrong', just understand why other fans might be angry. Instead they kept shit talking and trashing people who felt hurt.

Well it's always good seeing you here *__________*

I still value my CDs. It's like a time when things were happy~ like a past minus the bad times, it has goodies to offer. While listening to the albums, I kept hearing Junno's and Koki's voice and while the feeling of, 'they're no longer here' was there, I also felt like wow, 'these songs are good'~ so in that sense, I still like the music.

But yeah, it's like a completely different Junno that we don't know~ like he really really really planned this debut and was just waiting working out in gyms until 'the time was right' ~ Though considering KT's position, Idek when that 'right time' would be~ hmmm, it's still unbelievable that he would do this to Kame, Maru and Ueda.

But I look forward to 3nin. I guess their style will change but still keeping their personalities. I really enjoyed the 10Ks concert. I didn't even notice they had no dancers >
20102205k20102205k on September 1st, 2016 07:15 pm (UTC)
Gosh we really shares common views ^^

And i really like how you put it down.

I will write mine too now please read it if you find some time ^^

Ahhh what a drama group ^^
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 2nd, 2016 10:30 am (UTC)
*hugs*

I hope you're feeling better. You really picked a tough troublesome group to love ><

Well at last you have company in this misery XD

I'll go check yours in a bit!
pieremaechai_pieremae on September 2nd, 2016 01:58 am (UTC)
thank you for sharing your opinion, it is such an eye opener for me.
yeah i agree.... we can take it as oving on and as a closure
yes it hurts he could have been blunt about reasons or intention of elaving then fans wouldn't be suprised as hell like yerterday. but then again he may have his reasons for doing so.
but your post made me realize that yes perhaps we can take it as that. besides every reaction is different per person after all.

thank you!
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 2nd, 2016 10:57 am (UTC)
When I read the news, so many thoughts kept running through my head that I had to itemise them one by one to really understand what was happening *sighs*

It's true, maybe he couldn't say anything about going solo but he really gave the impression that he wanted a life away from the spotlight so that's another reason why everyone is so taken by surprise.

But yeah, it's easier to take it as the closing chapter to Junno, and move on~ and move even closer towards Maru, Kame and Ueda.
Hikari Kiramekudaftdragon on September 2nd, 2016 08:16 am (UTC)
(Rant, fair warning)
My friend sent me the link about the fansite, and at first I was annoyed, because I didn't want to see him after the shit he pulled, but then I was happy since part of the reason I was so upset originally was that I didn't think I'd ever see him again and I loved his solo songs and performances...

But then I started remembering that he was supposed to have been retiring, and dropping out of the entertainment business and he's not which means he lied to us... Plus he fucked over KAT-TUN's 10th Anniversary year and had the audacity to release a single while they were still on a hiatus that was HIS FAULT. AND to top it off, they found that his site had been registered just a mere day after KAT-TUN's hiatus had started, meaning he'd been planning that shit. I wonder if the other members even knew, or if he lied to them too?

...and I started to rage...seething rage, and that feeling of betrayal from earlier in the year hit fresh again.

I never supported him leaving. I was pissed before he left, I was pissed after he left, and I was just now starting to settle into a feeling of indifference towards him with feeling happy I'd at least never have to see his face again, and then this happened.

Now I'm just kinda like 'You lying two-faced sack of shit, you think we're just gonna blindly trust and follow you again? Fuck you.' I'm almost ashamed to ever admit he was my ichiban at this point. What sucks even worse is that I know his solo music will probably be amazing (FINALE and FLASH were some of my favorite solos), but at this point I'll just hate him to much to either enjoy it or care...

The ONLY good thing to come out of this mess is that the Hyphens are rallying even more strongly together around 3-nin KAT-TUN. It's kind of an amazing thing to see. As for me, I'll probably re-watch 10ks concert tomorrow a bit to see if that helps me calm down a bit.
Mystical_Powersmystical_powers on September 2nd, 2016 10:39 am (UTC)
3 nin for LIFE! xD
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jehanakame: We are KAT-TUNjehanakame on September 3rd, 2016 04:06 am (UTC)
When I first heard the news at first I was "Oh" and then a second later, I was screaming "WHAT THE FLYING FUCK JUNNO?!!!"
After that I searched as much info as I could and what I read only managed to make me feel even more frustrated. I only released a few silent tears when the news about Junno wanting to leave KAT-TUN broke out. I didn't even cry when the d-day actually came. I only exhaled a few shaky breath when KT's recharging period came. But when this news about him releasing a single broke out, it felt like all the hell broke loose.

I started listing why it is so wrong. Then I remember how he left on KT's 10th anniversary. After quarter, 10th anniversary was really the event hyphens and KAT-TUN members wanted the most, but he ruined it for us. He didn't actually explain why he wanted to leave to hyphens that'd been supporting him all these years. He didn't even explain it properly to the remaining members. He gave the impression that he wanted to stay out of the spotlight. He gave us the impression that fans are a burden (I know some hyphens who felt guilty and thought like this). He left KAT-TUN that's starting to get their light again in chaos. They left them having to enter a recharging period just right after their tenth anniversary. Somehow, the tears shed by the 3 seemed pointless now. Like they've been crying for all the wrong reason. I feel betrayed. Idk how that makes the 3 feel.
I at least hope that Junno bothered to tell Ueda (if not all three) about his intention in going solo. Because if not, then it'll be a really dick move. Since he actually registered the website on May 2nd 2016. (So it's either he planned it all or he changed his mind that fast. Either way, it makes me question if he actually ever really loved KAT-TUN as much as I thought he did)

I see some folks saying that Junno is not to blame, and JE is. I can't help but snort at that.
I've known some other idol companies and they're as bad as JE, if not worse. Basically that's just how the entertainment industry is.
What most people forget is that JE mostly focuses on groups. And of course whatever they're doing, they do it in business mindset.
So even as bad as JE is, I don't see how this time folks can blame it solely on the company. Junno is being a douche (with his timing and all), at least accept it.
Maybe fans wouldn't feel too butthurt if he actually waited a few years before releasing a solo. If KAT-TUN is already back by that time and shining again, fans would probably feel that Junno belongs in the ent. business after all. But he actually doesn't wait. He registered his website on MAY 2ND 2016. WOW.

I still love Jin, probably because I knew KT through him, and I wasn't a fan long enough for me to be that affected by his decision in going solo. But maybe also because his attitude was clear and I think some fans are actually relieved by his decision. I still know some things about him, but I only follow him loosely. I love him, just not the way I love KAT-TUN's Jin. I love some of his music, but the majority is just not my cup of tea. Lately though, Jin gives the impression that he didn't regret his time as a KAT-TUN member. How he said he thinks it's nice to be in a group. I appreciate that.

For Koki, I cried but not hurt that much. I only felt that he's an idiot. Although I might have cursed him when he actually made a new band. But it wasn't long until I warmed up to him. Although his songs are not my cup of tea. (I like trigger and zutto though).

As for Junno... I don't know. Maybe there'll come a time where I won't scowl everytime I read/watch/look anything about him. Although I doubt it, since it's been so long since I last felt this angry. But maybe I'll still try to search infos about him to know if he's doing fine being a soloist (because, to be really honest, I kinda hope he's not).

So yeah, I feel extremely pissed and frustrated. Angry too. And betrayed. But I think it's also better for people who're no longer have it in them to be in the group to just go. Now I feel the yearning for 3nin KAT-TUN. I hope they're given the strength to face all the insensitive reporters who're gonna ask about this and the strength to face the tough road ahead.
jehanakame: We are KAT-TUNjehanakame on September 3rd, 2016 04:08 am (UTC)
I'm sorry for taking up the space with my long comment (This is a rant really. But I get a closure from writing this.)^^
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dreamfighterleadreamfighterlea on September 4th, 2016 06:42 am (UTC)
When I saw the news, I wasn't too surprised, but, man, was I pissed. Junno's timing sucks. I had literally received my copy of the 10ks! DVD earlier this week, and stayed up late to watch it. I woke up the next morning and was greeted by the news that Junno was going solo.

I think the thing that pisses me off most is that Junno's leaving was really the last straw that pushed the group into deciding a re-charging period was necessary. Then while it's still the groups 10th anniversary year, and we're lamenting the fact that there aren't any more group activities, he goes solo, capitalizing off the additional publicity. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it does make me angry.

The feelings were bittersweet watching the DVD, and it was such an emotional roller coaster, reliving the concert and watching Kame, Maru, and Ueda cry, or nearly cry, on stage, but really give it their all for the fans.

I became a fan after Jin left, so while I enjoy watching the old stuff, and don't mind seeing him, his departure didn't really affect me as much. Koki was such a shocker. Junno even more so. I really really loved 4-nin KAT-TUN.

I hope the news didn't blindside Kame, Maru and Ueda the way it did most of the fans. They did try really hard to give Junno a proper goodbye, even telling us to support Junno...

One of the only good things that is coming out of this is that Ueda has lately been showing us how much he loves the group and the other members, and the fans. He didn't show it very much at all in the past. And now I'm seeing clips floating around on twitter from Taiikukai TV that seem very emotional. Damnit is he going to make me cry again??

I'm spending the remainder of my weekend rewatching the 10ks! concert and pretending the nothing else exists. Can't fans ever catch a break?!
kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 4th, 2016 02:14 pm (UTC)
The roller coaster ride never ends for us Hyphens ><"
His timing is really bad or 'well timed' according to his calculations.

Watching Taiikukai was hopeful and heartbreaking at once. Such earnestness in Ueda's eyes. I'm glad he's getting that exposure~ He almost got 1 hour for his segment. I was surprised, and we can expect more next episode.

I watched 10Ks today too lol I think this dvd is Hyphen's therapy to get over these last few days.

Hang in there!
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(no subject) - kissmegreen on September 6th, 2016 11:03 am (UTC) (Expand)
marynasuke: pic#126306595marynasuke on September 4th, 2016 06:21 pm (UTC)
I was originally not going to post a comment as I respected your opinion but then I read your replies to comments below and I must say I feel hurt when you keep saying "First sane Junno's fan" "Second sane Junno's fan" and tbh you are not the only one who keep saying like this.

First, I just want to say thank you for labeling those who wish to continue support Junno as "not sane" for defending venemous words directed at him, I guess that's what Hyphens does nowadays is calling each other's name.

Second please do accept that while we support Junno in his solo doesn't means we don't symphatized the other three. We are KAT-TUN's fans afterall. But current situation right now while you asked Junno's fans to understand the hurts of other fans, you guys are trying very hard to cast us aside from the fandom for supporting him. It's as if we are not allowed to like both. We are in the minority and you guys are in the majority but we don't mind because we don't expect people to all understand the same thing as we did, but merely asking to only stop labeling the fans "stupid" and "not sane"

Just because we don't see the same thing as you do, doesn't means we've lost touch with reality. We are merely having different perspectives.

Honestly I am very disappointed with fandom right now. Just writing this, I'm sure I'll be burn at stake for even dared to go against the stream.

Lastly, I just wish for the best and can't wait for the return of KAT-TUN with a bang. But also for the hyphens to be respectful towards each other. You are free to hate/bashing and stuff but stop categorizing people according to your agreement and that is all I asked.

Thank you.







kissmegreen (Lyan)kissmegreen on September 5th, 2016 09:53 am (UTC)
sane = rational.

I feel hurt when you keep saying "First sane Junno's fan" "Second sane Junno's fan"

Hmmm, where to start with replying to you?

I've only used it twice and now that you mention it, there's another (sane) rational person who also commented before these two.

I wonder why you're hurt? Weren't you the one happily on twitter trash talking fans who had every right to be upset?

You commenting here, what you just commented just proves the point that some obviously Junno-only fans, are insensitive and oversensitive.

Now imagine;

Of course, Junno can go solo. After all, he needs to make a living and he's got talent so of course he needs to use it.

But why can't you understand that his timing his wrong?

- website setup the day of the recharge
- announcing going solo only 3 months after the start of the recharge - a recharge that his leaving triggered because let's think rationally here, if Junno didn't leave then KT wouldn't think they needed to take a break (that's as close to fact as can get)

So really, if fans want to be angry, let them be angry. No need to defend Junno. I'm sure Junno expected people to be angry with him when he left and when he announced his plans, so you don't need to make excuses for him when obviously, we we know nothing about him since even his most committed fans were surprised by his news.

If you felt bad because others were talking ill of Junno - it's understandable that you would be hurt but why bashing others because they feel hurt?... and you seemed to be really enjoying yourself (along with others) bashing people. Just looking at those tweets and re-tweets, I wondered, 'why is it so hard to say Junno chose a bad time? Why was it so hard to rationalise things? Why blindly behave like Junno did nothing 'wrong'? or rather, that he did something that would rightly upset people? It's really okay to admit his miscalculation and still love and support him as his loyal fan.

I don't hate Junno. I said it in the post and it's the truth. I won't support him going solo~ the only person I would support going solo is Ueda and that's because I really love his music and I really think he has a special musical style~

So you talking about "I just wish... for the hyphens to be respectful towards each other" - you should have remembered that last week with all your tweets and retweets.... Noticed I didn't include the "I... can't wait for the return of KAT-TUN with a bang"~ if you stick around till then, then wow, good going but I saw your tweet about almost leaving fandom after Junno left - so it seems you truly just care about Junno and not seeing the bigger picture with KAT-TUN.

Lastly,

"you guys are trying very hard to cast us aside from the fandom for supporting him".

I think you're pretty much doing that yourself.

If you're angry, go rant in your LJ. That's what I and many others did. You know how delicate the KT fandom is (still recovering from Junno's announcement, to him actually leaving to KT going into recharge period to the 10Ks dvd bringing back lots of feels ~ and now Junno's announcement) ~ and you also knew what you were doing with those tweets and retweets that they would hurt people but you still did it... you know because as soon as I posted my tweet about people sending trash tweets, you almost immediately unfollowed me. That says, you knew exactly, that you were hurting people.

When Junno left, I said nothing bashful because I understood he's human and people need to live however they find it comfortable. But then he decides to return solo in the middle of fandom crises~ in a manner that fandom is no stranger to and instead of understanding your 'fellow fandom mates', you decided to form your lil group and start your own fight... and now, you actually think, you're the victim? Does that sound fair and rational? reflect on that.

Edited at 2016-09-05 09:58 am (UTC)
(no subject) - marynasuke on September 5th, 2016 05:03 pm (UTC) (Expand)